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sandsquish

Posts: 34
Registered: Dec 16, 2001
From: Denver
Two Dozen Openings
Posted: Nov 15, 2014, 10:02 PM

These are from the opening book of Mark Okun's Pente app, XO. I've added some named openings from other sources, then I've sorted them by percentage of wins for Black in the database. Finally, I trimmed them down to two dozen formations.

76% "Tesh:"

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76%:

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66% "Hammer:"

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66%:

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64%:

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62% "Boston:"

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58% "Allen:"

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61%:

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60%:

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58% "Russian:"

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56%:

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52%:

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51% "Dallas:"

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50% "Grady:"

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50%:

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50%:

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44% "Wallace:"

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47% "Colbert:"

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44% "Krenz:"

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42% "Cross:"

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42% "Wedge:"

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42%:

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41%:

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40% "Cooper:"

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I'm pretty bad with openings. There's just no formation to play off yet. I hoped doing this exercise might help me see some useful patterns in the opening.

So far, it looks to me like Black needs a stone that's either adjacent to White's first stone, or, oddly enough, a stone three points by two points away from White's first stone. (See "Allen," 60%, 52%, and "Wallace.")

I also noticed that Black never seems to play a stone on a point that would be a "potential" for White.

Also, it looks like White can go wrong by playing too far away from Black.



zoeyk

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Registered: Mar 4, 2007
From: San Francisco
Age: 42
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Re: Two Dozen Openings
Posted: Nov 18, 2014, 6:50 AM

I would love to address this when I have time, and perhaps show you some stuff on the board in the lobby.

With the openings you put, I don't believe you need to put 3rd moves by P1 and P2. Just the first 2 of each. except with the hammer and wedge openings. Allen's opening to me just means N8 by P2 and P1 can do any 2nd.
The russian refers to the P1 white offence. it is not referring to a P2 opening, just refers to a way that P1 places a 3rd stone in the standard Boston opening, and P2's 3rd is not needed there for the name "Russian".

As to your beginning formulation of opening theory, I like the passion. reminds me of me or karlw many years ago. I'm not sure your exactly on the right track, but your passionate and that is the main thing. try having a look at my opening theory if you haven't yet. it is not the be all end all, and perhaps some of it is wrong, but you may find something useful in there.

Scire hostis animum - Intelligere ludum - Nosce te ipsum - Prima moventur conciliat - Nolite errare
sandsquish

Posts: 34
Registered: Dec 16, 2001
From: Denver
Re: Two Dozen Openings
Posted: Nov 18, 2014, 7:39 PM

[quote]try having a look at my opening theory[/quote]

I guess that would have saved me some time. It looks very interesting.

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