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anonymous

Posts: 72
Registered: Jul 3, 2002
Beginner Question
Posted: Jul 27, 2000, 9:17 AM

Hi, I started playing Pente just a month or two
ago, and have become addicted. And I found out about
this club just today. I've noticed I've found myself
in a similar situation in quite a few games lately,
and I'm not sure the best way to proceed. I took a
snapshot from an old game for you to see. See
http://mikemiller.net/pente_board.gif

The stone outlined
in red is the center point
(0).
I am black. It's my move. Where should I play from
here? I seem to get to this point a lot and then blow
it. I need some gentle guidance from the gurus here.
The answer very well may be that my strategy (or lack
thereof) up to this point has been faulty and that I've
played myself into a corner, but if not I'd like to know
the best next move.

What would you
do?

Thanks,

-Mike



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mmammel

Posts: 260
Registered: Dec 16, 2001
From: Maryland
Age: 53
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Re: Beginner Question
Posted: Jul 27, 2000, 9:56 AM

Hi Mike, welcome to Pente

I checked that
it is not a current ItsYourTurn tournament game so
we are free to answer you
It is good to
mention how many captures have been made in the position,
I'll assume none here.

It is not an easy
position but I would think that moving to R3D1 from the
center red square would put you in good position - you
prevent white from moving there forming a four and you
are making a three, keeping the initiative.

Do
other people see a defense against that move or see a
better move?

MM



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anonymous

Posts: 72
Registered: Jul 3, 2002
Re: Beginner Question
Posted: Jul 27, 2000, 10:35 AM

mmammel8 wrote:
>
> I checked that it
is not a current ItsYourTurn
> tournament game
so we are free to answer you

No, I don't
feel nearly confident enough to
play in a
tournament yet. I've lost many
more games than I've
won so far...


> It is good to mention
how many captures have
> been made in the
position, I'll assume none
> here.

Correct,
neither player has made any captures
yet at this
point.


> It is not an easy position but I would
think
> that moving to R3D1 from the center red
square
> would put you in good position - you
prevent
> white from moving there forming a four and
you
> are making a three, keeping the
initiative.

R3D1 gives me a three? I guess you mean a
split
three and not an open three.



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afortune

Posts: 94
Registered: Dec 16, 2001
Re: Beginner Question
Posted: Jul 27, 2000, 8:23 PM

It is not an easy position but I would think that
moving to R3D1 from the center red square would put you
in good position - you prevent white from moving
there forming a four and you are making a three,
keeping the initiative.

Do other people see a
defense against that move or see a better
move?

What happens after the other guy plays R3D3, not only
challenging a pair but threatening to reopen that stretch
three? This position looks tough to me. Mike, is this
game still on your profile at IYT? I would like to see
how this position came about because it looks like
you had the offense for quite a while but, as you
say, played yourself into a corner.

Aaron



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afortune

Posts: 94
Registered: Dec 16, 2001
Re: Beginner Question
Posted: Jul 27, 2000, 8:24 PM

R3D1 gives me a three? I guess you mean
a
split three and not an open three.

I split
three is still open if your opponent has to block it,
Mike. Don't underestimate the power of the split three.



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anonymous

Posts: 72
Registered: Jul 3, 2002
Re: Beginner Question
Posted: Jul 29, 2000, 1:02 PM

Hmmm, replied to this message earlier today,
but
I guess it got lost in the shuffle
somehow...

pentejr wrote:
>
> Mike, is this game still
on your profile
> at IYT? I would like to see
how this position
> came about because it looks
like you had the
> offense for quite a while
but, as you say,
> played yourself into a
corner.

Well actually I wanted to wait until that game
was
fully completed before I posted on this
any further
so I didn't give the appearance of
impropriety.
See the
following:

http://www.itsyourturn.com/iyt.dll/action?stage=7&game=15300001984434&useri\
d=15200000226389&type=1&gametype=42
target=new>http://www.itsyourturn.com/iyt.dll/action?stage=7&game=15300001984434\
&userid=152
00000226389&type=1&gametype=42

(I assume this link will work)
I
did in fact make
my next move at R3D1, but I'm
not sure it really
worked to my advantage. I did
end up winning the
game, but only by accident.

If anyone can look
at how I got there and point
out any obvious
errors, it would be
appreciated.

Thanks!

-Mike



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virag

Posts: 12
Registered: Dec 16, 2001
Re: Beginner Question
Posted: Aug 4, 2000, 1:22 PM

It seems for me that your last move was red
square. So that is true, then
best move in that
position without 0 (red square) is R1D1 from red
square.
cheers, Istvan Virag



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mmammel

Posts: 260
Registered: Dec 16, 2001
From: Maryland
Age: 53
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Re: Beginner Question
Posted: Aug 4, 2000, 7:53 PM

>It seems for me that your last move was red square.

No, the red
square is just the center, the last move made is the blue square, it is now
black's turn.



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anonymous

Posts: 72
Registered: Jul 3, 2002
Re: Beginner Question
Posted: Aug 4, 2000, 10:01 PM

mmammel8 wrote;
>
> No, the red
square is just the center, the
> last move made is
the blue square, it is now
> black's turn.

>

Right. I edited this image with xpaint and drew in a
red square by hand. I didn't realize a red square at
ITY signified your last move. I should have used
another color.

Thanks,

-Mike



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