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karlw

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Open Challenge to All TB Pente Masters -- Financial Incentives
Posted: May 23, 2026, 7:35 PM

I have recently undertaken a personal quest to achieve a 2843 tb-pente rating and dethrone the great pente_gon.

The current dearth of active TB masters makes this quite an uphill battle. I have devised several potential opening novelties, which I believe may pique the interest of many retired masters, but it may not be enough. In an attempt to remedy this, I have decided to offer rating bounties in the form of up-front payment for playing a rated tb-pente set with me (time limit 5-7 days per move). Remuneration table below.
2400+: $10
2500+: $20
2600+: $30
2700+: $40

Must be an established tb-pente rating. Multiple challenges may be sent, but I will only accept and pay out for one challenge at a time. Payments may be adjusted for exceptional challengers. Message me directly or respond to this thread if interested.

Thank you,
Karlw

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zoeyk

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Re: Open Challenge to All TB Pente Masters -- Financial Incentives
Posted: May 24, 2026, 1:32 AM

Im fairly busy lately. I have a full time job and also running a bussiness. Plus family.

That said im not sure you want to challenge me. As you know we are pretty evenly matched. And im extremely thorough in deep study. There's a chance I could sweep you to be honest. Let me know, and ill let you know when I get a window of time opened up.

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karlw

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Re: Open Challenge to All TB Pente Masters -- Financial Incentives
Posted: May 24, 2026, 2:07 AM

Hi Zoey,

I expected you'd be one of if not the first to answer, and I'm happy to see it. No need to work out a schedule, just challenge me whenever you are free.

Will you be claiming the $20 bounty, or is the opportunity to sweep your old rival enough incentive for you?

PS - I have a full time job and a family as well

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zoeyk

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Re: Open Challenge to All TB Pente Masters -- Financial Incentives
Posted: May 24, 2026, 6:49 PM

No money required. Ill challenge you at some point. Sounds fun.

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madmike

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Re: Open Challenge to All TB Pente Masters -- Financial Incentives
Posted: May 24, 2026, 7:07 PM

When you first told me of your goal, I thought, oh my, he is going to need to beat a lot of us peons.

So this is how you plan to get there, Interesting!!!!

karlw

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Re: Open Challenge to All TB Pente Masters -- Financial Incentives
Posted: May 25, 2026, 5:06 PM

This my proposed ruleset, loosely based on a 10-set match pente_gon and I played several years back. Feel free to suggest any amendments.

-4 game match (2 games each color), 5 days per move

-10 Vacation days allowed, purchasing and using additional vacation days prohibited

-We both issue one rated set challenge, and simultaneously accept the challenge and play our 1st P2 move immediately in both games.

-P2's first move cannot be the same in both games.

-P1's response to P2's first move in the two games cannot result in identical positions including symmetry/translation; i.e. K10 K9 K7 and K10 M10 N10

-All moves after P1's second move have no restrictions.

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zoeyk

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Re: Open Challenge to All TB Pente Masters -- Financial Incentives
Posted: May 26, 2026, 4:35 AM

If you dont want Semitry, then dont do p2 moves that allow it. Limiting P1s moves seems odd. And why have both send and both have to start at same time? That seems like it could be hard to coordinate. Seems complicated. Why it cant be one set with me, and you do another set with another master? Im not understanding your motive in the rule design. And im not sure i will have time to do 2 sets simultaneously.

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karlw

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Re: Open Challenge to All TB Pente Masters -- Financial Incentives
Posted: May 26, 2026, 4:42 AM

I'm okay with discarding the restriction in P1's second move. It's only there to guarantee four wholly distinct openings.

The reason for multiple simultaneous sets is just that it's more interesting and perhaps gives P2 slightly better chances overall. We can just do one at a time if you prefer.

With simultaneous sets, the reason for simultaneous 1st moves is to prevent one player from constantly waiting to see the other's moves and deciding what to play based on that, which you could argue confers an advantage. When I played pente_gon, we arranged that we sent our opening moves to watsu in advance of playing them, so that neither of us would get to be influenced by the other. It made for some great pente.

Finally, I don't exactly see any other masters beating down my door asking to play rated sets with me, even with the cash incentive. Do you?

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zoeyk

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Re: Open Challenge to All TB Pente Masters -- Financial Incentives
Posted: May 26, 2026, 4:51 AM

R3 and Dimitri are on my fb friends list as are you. You could message them and ask.

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zoeyk

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Re: Open Challenge to All TB Pente Masters -- Financial Incentives
Posted: May 26, 2026, 4:53 AM

Also, I dont care about my tb rating much. If you prefer I could play with zero study, just playing through my phone, and likely lose. But your wins would be less victorious.

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karlw

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Re: Open Challenge to All TB Pente Masters -- Financial Incentives
Posted: May 26, 2026, 5:39 AM

I deleted my fb a long time ago. Perhaps you could be my ambassador?

I don't want to get into a prolonged back-and-forth on the rules of engagement. Whatever brings out the most competitive zoey, I agree to.

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