How about a Davis cup of Pente
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Dec 21, 2004, 7:38 PM
I have been thinking about this for awhile. The top 25 or so Polish pente players against the top 25 or so American players Played at either Dweebos or Kurnik. Wow would that be fun to watch Andrzej,utratos, and Rofellos maybe against Richard,dmitriking, and ?????? wow what a match that would be. We should probably add the Canadians in there too Or even better have a All European team against a North american team What a thought What do ya all think I bet the polish players would be up for it. That would be a tourney Merry Christmas to all
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Re: How about a Davis cup of Pente
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Dec 21, 2004, 9:37 PM
Jay I think that's a great idea!
Of course, there would be a lot of organization, planning and logistics that someone would have to volunteer to do.
There is also the time zone issue and access to reliable, low cost internet connections which often makes it difficult for north americans and eastern europeans to play in real time. But real time is the only way to go. Difficult does not mean impossible though. I think it can be done and could be a lot of fun if done properly.
Re: How about a Davis cup of Pente
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Dec 21, 2004, 10:31 PM
Yes This could work We need to Vote for the Top 25 players in America that are still playing Not retired, Everybody could make up there top 25 list and submit it here. Then we could pick a Captain to pick out the most votes out of each list. Wouldnt it be sooo cool to make that Team. wowowowow The Captain would put the top 25 in order of play Just one set against a polish opponent. 2pts for both wins 1pt for a tie We would all be rooting for every game wowowow After every set is over The captain is emailed with the win and loss record 50 games and its over Time limits would be installed ( Like a week to play there match) This is soooooooo Cooooool I think the people that give us a list could elect a captain Lets do this folks hehehehe funnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn
Re: How about a Davis cup of Pente
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Dec 23, 2004, 5:29 AM
I would like to play for europe(czech rep.). Will be looking forward to this tourny, if anybody will take the part. Sava-mamhlad PS:marry xmas to all of you, and happy New Yer.
Re: How about a Davis cup of Pente
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Dec 26, 2004, 8:58 AM
Sounds like a thrill ride.
The weekends will present the best time frame options to such a competition. Someone (mamhald maybe) needs to make contact with a load of Europeans who would be interested, in order to get a count on how many players would be interested. I already know the American continent would field a considerable player list. Which ever continent teams up the lowest count would determine the overall team size for each continent.
3 team captains from each side (perhaps voted in by representative team signups) would form a consensus in selecting players and divide the team into 2 groups, Tier 1 & Tier 2. Each of tier members would play a complete round robin vs. all players in opposing team tier. I feel a 4 game set, with a point awarded for each game won. Then the points earned by each player would tallied with all wins of both tiers to provide a viable measure of the overall win.
Someone from both sides of the world needs to step up and volunteer to press this idea through. I’m willing to help out on the concept side of things, and I’m willing to solicit players I know to get involved, but someone needs to take charge here.
Re: How about a Davis cup of Pente
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Dec 26, 2004, 3:38 PM
Sounds more like a Ryder Cup (most of the top players are either European or American) and what a cool idea. Jayhawk has done some extensive research on the top players so he'd be a good place to start in ranking our top 25. There are also quite a few good European players at Brainking. Those of us that play there can help spread the word. Looks like we need a contact player for both sides in setting up the rankings and getting an interested list of participants. Any volunteers?
Re: How about a Davis cup of Pente
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Dec 27, 2004, 7:31 AM
this is sooooooooo cooool I hope we can get this started soon like after the new year Lets hear from more people here. I will try to contact people at Kurnik and see if they could get up a team. Yea this is so fun
Re: How about a Davis cup of Pente
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Dec 27, 2004, 1:33 PM
I sent a mesage to some good players from europe. I tolked to s3v3n(he would play for europe, and he will also tell Utratos about this tourny). Donoschek wrote me, he will play too. I sent a message also to Alexandr Nosovsky. He told me he will play, but problem is the time zone. No one from Europe would love to play in deep night our time.
Re: How about a Davis cup of Pente
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Dec 27, 2004, 7:58 PM
There is an +8 hour difference from New York to Moscow. As I said before, weekends provide the best time options for both sides. We Americans could play ether in the mornings or very late at night in order to accommodated our European opponents. Players could email their opponents to prearrange game schedules.
Re: How about a Davis cup of Pente
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Dec 28, 2004, 1:07 PM
Think this is the only way how to do it Richard. BTW: Im in contact with Istvan Virag,hope he will play too.If anybody of you know some good europien playr i missed, tell me pls.I wil do my best to catch him and tell him about this tourny.
Re: How about a Davis cup of Pente
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Dec 28, 2004, 4:47 PM
Ive got a ? They use to have like National Swedish touneys Do they still have them? and could we get some of those players Maybe we should ask Arne Blom or Mark Mammel to find them
Re: How about a Davis cup of Pente
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Jan 3, 2005, 12:41 AM
Here is a possible tournament format:
Basic Guidlines for Tournament Team Europe vs Team America.
Team Player Selection. Each team will elect 3 team captains for their team. An entire list of their team's players will be emailed to each player on their team, and each player will select 3 players they feel that would best serve as team captain. The 3 players with the most votes become team captains.
The role of each team captain is to compile a grouping list divided into tiers based on the skill level of players, with a maximum of 8-10 players assigned to each tier. If the player count on each team is 20 or less, then 2 tiers will be created. 21-30 total players will be divided into 3 tiers, and so on. Tier 1 will be comprised of the highest level players from their team, and tier 2 will hold the next highest level grouping, and so on. The number of players in each tier should be as near equal as possible.
To determine the tier divisions, the lists from each captain will be compared to their co-captain’s lists. Players receiving all three captain votes will be officially assigned to that tier. Any discrepancies between the lists will be settled 1st by determining which player got 2 of the 3 captain’s votes, and the remaining slots would be filled by negotiations among the 3 captains to reach a final settlement. Each tier should be voted on independently and sequentially, beginning with tier 1, as it is possible in the voting sequence for a player to be bumped down into the next tier upsetting a captain’s previous list for that tier.
Once all tier player assignments are settled, then the final lists would be forwarded to the opposing team's 3 captains for final approval. This is to insure that one team doesn’t try to slip a higher level player into the lower level tier in order to wrangle out unfair wins. The opposing team’s captains can not rearrange players on the opposing team’s player lists, rather they can only vote to approve or disapprove the lists as a whole. The lists should only be disapproved for obvious sandbagging and not for minor differences of opinion.
Team Size The overall number of players on each team will be limited by the team with lowest overall number of players signing up to play. If Team America has a total of 25 players and Team Europe has a total of 30, then the team size limit would be 25 for each team, and it would be up to the team captains to determine which players get culled from the final team count.
Tournament Format The tiers from each team will face off against each other in a complete round robin style match. Each player will play everyone in their opponent’s tier of the same level, in a 4 game set (30 min time limit per game). Players would have a maximum of 2 weeks to play at least one of their individual sets, which if pushed to the maximum would make the tournament last for up to 20 weeks.
Scoring Each game won scores 1 point for their team for a maximum of 4 points per set. Once every player has played everyone in their opponent’s tier, the points they gained will be tallied along with the points earned in every other tier to determine the total count of points. The team with the most overall points wins the tournament.
