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watsu

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Re: Open Challenge to All TB Pente Masters -- Financial Incentives
Posted: Sep 2, 2026, 2:13 AM

Captures can happen but don't win is a variant which has been explored, yes. The unbalance isn't due to captures being able to win, it's due to a winnable position for one side or the other arising due to capturing.

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watsu

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Re: Open Challenge to All TB Pente Masters -- Financial Incentives
Posted: Sep 2, 2026, 2:18 AM

Capture wins disabled is actually a BGA option which a few players favor; it has an older prior history, of course, but that's where it's playable currently. I've played a few games of it there.

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zoeyk

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Re: Open Challenge to All TB Pente Masters -- Financial Incentives
Posted: Sep 5, 2026, 5:44 AM

Round 3 starts soon. I see all possible endings to the game. My moves will be quick. Get ready for next opponents.

Someone do the round 3 line up. Karl...

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karlw

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Re: Open Challenge to All TB Pente Masters -- Financial Incentives
Posted: Sep 5, 2026, 1:32 PM

rating seed name

2619 1 karl
2557 2 zoey
2404 3 owen
2375 4 tempest
2290 5 noah
2242 6 mumix
2185 7 madmike


Section 1

karl
owen/tempest
noah/mumix
madmike?


Section 2

zoey
tempest/owen
mumix/noah
madmike?


(madmike will be randomly placed)

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zoeyk

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Re: Open Challenge to All TB Pente Masters -- Financial Incentives
Posted: Sep 6, 2026, 9:12 PM

I may slow my moves down to give everyone a week to gear up for the next round. Theres about 5 moves remaining.

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madmike

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Re: Open Challenge to All TB Pente Masters -- Financial Incentives
Posted: Sep 7, 2026, 1:11 AM

Waiting on you, Some of us have been finished for a while

zoeyk

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Re: Open Challenge to All TB Pente Masters -- Financial Incentives
Posted: Sep 7, 2026, 5:42 AM

To be honest, I have a busy week ahead, including double shifts. My first day off will be Sunday. So for my needs also i think I'll drag it a week. My current game is win by captures in 5 moves. But, im not in a rush.

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madmike

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Re: Open Challenge to All TB Pente Masters -- Financial Incentives
Posted: Sep 7, 2026, 6:16 AM

if your so sure you will win, why didn't you make your move instead of writing about it. and why does your game with homebrew show you still have 2 days to play when he played a day or two ago

zoeyk

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Re: Open Challenge to All TB Pente Masters -- Financial Incentives
Posted: Sep 7, 2026, 9:20 AM

Im trying to time the moves, so that next round starts Monday next week. Depends of homebrew of course.

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owen_

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Re: Open Challenge to All TB Pente Masters -- Financial Incentives
Posted: Oct 5, 2026, 1:28 PM

> Beat my P2: $50
> Beat my P1: $200
> Beat me in a set: $500

Is it still standing?

karlw

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Re: Open Challenge to All TB Pente Masters -- Financial Incentives
Posted: Oct 5, 2026, 3:44 PM

Against mumix: he's been clamoring about it the whole tournament, and this will likely be our only chance to face off, so yes.

Against noah: I already owe him $100. I'll message him after the tournament concludes to settle my debts.

Against owen: we already have our upcoming money match, which I have to save some money/opening prep for. Also justice for Zoeyk. So no.

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owen_

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Re: Open Challenge to All TB Pente Masters -- Financial Incentives
Posted: Nov 4, 2026, 10:54 PM

You're not keeping the promise you made here when bragging about 2800+, so before I play you seriously to win as P2, I'll drop your rating to 2550.

Enjoy pro pente where you don't have a chance to win my P1 and have to play more and more sets losing more and more rating points.

karlw

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Re: Open Challenge to All TB Pente Masters -- Financial Incentives
Posted: Nov 7, 2026, 2:54 PM

So you're going to play me in a bunch of pro-pente sets just to prove how bad pro-pente is? I have the perfect quote for that:

"Never wrestle with pigs. You both get dirty and the pig likes it."

-George Bernard Shaw

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zoeyk

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Re: Open Challenge to All TB Pente Masters -- Financial Incentives
Posted: Nov 8, 2026, 5:23 PM

Owen you've never beaten his P1 before. But yours has been beaten, more than once. By karl. Heck even by mumix. No offense mumix.

So, you talk a lot, now prove it. If he beats your p1, it will be utter embarrassment for you.

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owen_

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Re: Open Challenge to All TB Pente Masters -- Financial Incentives
Posted: Nov 15, 2026, 11:29 PM

> But yours has been beaten, more than once. By karl.

Lol.

We've played two sets under asymmetric rules: he played with a database, analysis, and the ability to put stones on the board, while I played using only my mind, without even having a board. This was because ex-admin Karl and current admin Zoey were unaware that the site rules were completely wrong, obsolete, or whatever.

So no, we've played only two sets under equal conditions. Both ended in a draw, absolutely dead from both sides.

And think about it: would he refuse to pay for a P1/P2 loss if he were sure he was going to win the whole set? He is too rational to ignore the fact that P1 wins in pro Pente and that a challenger who scored 77% in the tournament (while he scored 72%) poses a real threat to his money.

> Heck even by mumix. No offense mumix.

You are soooo arrogant and haughty - oh my! No offense Zoey.

And Mumix is good, sure thing.

> Owen you've never beaten his P1 before.

1. Well, I've written a dozen times that, above a certain level of playing strength, P1 is virtually invincible in pro Pente. So I hope to beat his P1 eventually, but it requires a lot of time and effort.
For now, I'm just putting down random stones to play some drawn sets.

2. He offered money for beating his P2 in the tournament. Feel free to read this thread again if you have any doubts about that. And when faced with the prospect of losing a substantial amount of money in an endless series of pro Pente sets, he breaks his promise. No surprise.

And one more thing.
Zoey, you are whinning that I've persuaded you to play a bad second move, poor Zoey played a weak opening against treacherous Owen and lost the game because the second move was too bad.
I will win Karl with this opening as P1 in a tournament game. For the great justice. And to remove Karl's last excuses. It seems to be among the easiest ways to win for P1 if not the easiest.

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