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Re: Smoke and mirrors vs....
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Oct 25, 2026, 6:35 AM
@ tempest. Owen is fairly stubborn on his ideas. He's not going to stop lol. Karl and I are also stubborn in our conservative ways of loving original pente.
There will always be room in the world for both, original, and variants featuring new extra crispy with spice added.
The issue here, is that, Owen is attacking original flavor. Either because he wants it to be discontinued and deleted, or because he wants the whole world to eat his new prefered flavor with him,
And have swap2 become the mainstream, while original gets shoved in the corner, covered with tatered old boxes, collecting dust and forgotten.
and have everyone say, hey youre right Owen, this flavor is 100 times better than original flavor. Because no one wants to eat alone, because like, its a game not a bag of chips or a bucket of chicken or something....
Karl and I have always considered original pente to be the best. Always is a strong word because I once argued with him about boat pente. But I came around to appreciate original.
And I think me and Karl see swap2 as the type of bandage, that erodes some important "essence " that original has. Primarily positional openings. Swap is a little too chaotic. Hard to prepare for.
And becomes only tactical instead of both positional and tactical, like original. The only issues with original, is the amount of lines left to discover is shrinking. Which, is fine, there's plenty to find still. But not for the lazy or impatient.
And, the inherent advantage white has. Which you only have 2 choices. 1, make a game that draws, or, try to shrink the advantage to as small as possible.
But anyways, im hoping my new project can bridge the gap. To calm things. I dunno. Worth a shot anyways. Its really up to you guys and your interest. No pressure.
But, yes I think my rough draft proposal can solve all issues, and meet in the middle. And preserve positional play, breath fresh air into tactical, reduce advantage further. And have a sort of non swap swap feel. But feel closer to original pente, but with a twist.
AND, I still think we should also play regular original pro prnte, until the end of time. You cant kill a classic. We will burn the data base down before that happens. Right rainwolf? Lol
I cant come up with a better solution to end this infinite argument. Compromise is the only solution. And, with classic pente preserved. And let swap 2 be that irrelevant varient thats always sitting there waiting to gain traction. But never quite scratches the itch that original does.
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Re: Smoke and mirrors vs....
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Oct 25, 2026, 8:06 AM
And I just talked with rainwolf. This varient can likely be done at some point. But not an easy task. But im willing to financially contribute. If the community is willing to get involved in the thread and show an interest. Balls in your court.
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" that original has. Primarily positional openings. Swap is a little too chaotic. Hard to prepare for.